RUMOR: It Sounds Like Marvel Studios And Sony Are Also Butting Heads Over SPIDER-MAN 4's Release Date (2024)

Spidey91 -2/18/2024,6:43 AM

Sony being Sony.

Se4M4NSt4ine -2/18/2024,6:47 AM

Feige at the next investor meeting after the 2 years of hell he’s had to endure…

FlopWatchers5 -2/18/2024,6:57 AM

Sony just take back full control of the character. y’all are doing the MCU a favor.

bkmeijer1 -2/18/2024,7:03 AM

@FlopWatchers5 - if they get the Spider-Verse people on it, definitely. If they get the Venom/Morbius/Madame Web squad on it, no thanks.

Timerider -2/18/2024,9:58 AM

@FlopWatchers5 - Sony may sell the rights back to Marvel because of how bad Madame Webb failed. Last time they wanted 10 billion. They may get him cheaper now. I would tell Sony no, it’ll come out in summer 2026. They may strike a deal by doing that.

ObserverIO -2/18/2024,7:03 AM

Just bring Bob Iger in and let him whip his big money dick out on the table and say "Spider-Man's ours now. Go buy yourself a new dress".

Blergh -2/18/2024,7:14 AM

@ObserverIO - why would Sony sell the most profitable IP they own? Even if Disney was at it's peak they couldn't buy Spidey off of Sony. What makes you think they could do so now?
Sony won't let go of Spidey, the failures of the other movies only goes to show that they need the actual Spider-Man in their movies.

Origame -2/18/2024,7:27 AM

@ObserverIO - considering how much money disney has been losing recently and the fact no way home made near $2 bil, how exactly is that gonna happen?

ObserverIO -2/18/2024,7:53 AM

@Blergh - @Origame - Because of Bob Iger's big money dick.

Bob Iger has a very large penis made entirely out of money. He doesn't mind taking some of that money off his dick and giving it to people for IP. Muppets, Marvel, Fox, Pixar, Lucasfilm, etc. etc.

Whether it's gotta be Spider-Man or Sony they buy, Marvel really needs to get control of their own characters again. Spider-Man belong with Marvel. Sony are trashing the brand with their SPUMC movies. Three this year!

Also, yes, Spider-Man is a very lucrative franchise for them. NWH made almost 2 billion. BECAUSE OF MARVEL STUDIOS!

Without Marvel Sony ain't got sh*t.

It's time they stopped making money for Sony and instead paid them off for good. You've got to cut the gordian cord with these kinda people. They're always gonna be a problem (myriad disparate problems in fact) for Marvel unless Bobby the bossman steps in and makes them go away.

Bobby the Bossman and his very large penis made entirely out moolah.

Origame -2/18/2024,8:07 AM

@ObserverIO - thats highly debatable. Especially considering no way home was as successful as it was from legacy characters made by Sony and marvel has been struggling even harder recently than Sony.

Quite frankly, I think them working together is the best thing for this franchise. We've seen what disney did to Thor.

See Also

How 'Madame Web' connects to Spider-Man

Taonrey -2/18/2024,2:13 PM

@bkmeijer1 - my bad by spiderverse I meant a movie with Andrew, Tobey and Tom.

bkmeijer1 -2/18/2024,2:38 PM

@Taonrey - oh yeah, gotcha. I doubt we'll see a Spider-Verse movie with those three, given they're probably already gonna interact again in Secret Wars anyway I bet

RitoRevolto -2/18/2024,7:06 AM

We have the mutants now, let Sony have their bug boy back atp.

Th3Batman -2/18/2024,7:13 AM

The failure of both Morbius and Madam Web would result in any studio following what Kevin Feige believes is best for the film, but Sony's film division is different, it doesn't run on logic. I can definitely see them using Spider-Man 4 to help their dying shared universe over there.

Origame -2/18/2024,7:28 AM

@Th3Batman - well the failures of films like quantumania and the marvels gives them some points in the debate. Both universes are dying if you didn't notice.

bkmeijer1 -2/18/2024,7:44 AM

@Th3Batman - if they had even the smallest bit of logic in their socks, I think they would've moved forward with Maguire and/or Garfield Spider-Man movies by now.

They probably already wanna bring them back for another Spider-Verse movie, so I don't see why they work their way up to it by showing them indivually again first.

Taonrey -2/18/2024,7:56 AM

@bkmeijer1 - they should’ve just did a Andrew and Tobey team up. There your multiverse right there. If you want you can even throw in an Emma stone Gwen and someone as Miles. Idk why they didn’t use that momentum they got from No way home with tobey and Andrew

Th3Batman -2/18/2024,8:01 AM

@Origame - Quantumania and The Marvels are The Dark Knight compared to what Sony's been putting out. Those two may have not stuck the landing, but at least you can see they tried. Sony on the other hand just jumped in front of traffic and called it a day with their attempts.

Th3Batman -2/18/2024,8:03 AM

@bkmeijer1 - My understanding of the No Way Home behind the scenes is that both actors only got involved due to Kevin Feige's involvement with the movie. There have been many rumors since 2021 that Sony has been trying to make continuations of their franchises, but the stars are seemingly not interested if Feige isn't involved.

Origame -2/18/2024,8:10 AM

@Th3Batman - while I think it's debatable, money wise it's no contest. Morbius nearly broke even while both quantumania and the marvels lost hundreds of millions of dollars. And while madame web is struggling, it's still doing better than the marvels relative to its budget.

In fact, Sony can literally burn all the money they made off of madame web so far and remove the film from all theaters and they'd still be in a better financial position than disney with the marvels.

KennKathleen -2/18/2024,8:41 AM

@Th3Batman - I can see all three iterations of Spider-Man saying no to a crossover with Morb and Mad damn web.

bkmeijer1 -2/18/2024,9:42 AM

@Taonrey @Th3Batman - there is indeed probably a lot of factors than require the both of them to come back, but maybe there's definitely a good story to tell. Wonder how they look at Sony's Spider-Verse and if that's worth exploring as well

marvel72 -2/18/2024,8:04 AM

They both need to release a Spider-Man movie,it's guaranteed dollar for both of them.

And their recent movies aren't making money.

Timerider -2/18/2024,10:17 AM

@marvel72 - not necessarily, do you remember Sam Raimi’s Spider-man 3? Avi Arad stuck his nose in pushed to have Venom in the movie, that ruined Sandman’s story with his daughter and fleshing out his story more.

It really depends on the script, it’s not a billion dollar movie guaranteed.

There also might be scheduling conflicts with Dune part 3 that Sony and Marvel may have to address.

99OPTIMISTPRIME -2/18/2024,8:17 AM

All Sony has to do, is choose a Peter Parker.🤣 I assume Tobey and Andrew wouldn't be interested in continuing on long-term. So Sony could just cast an their own Peter, and do whatever they want. Sony and Marvel forcing themselves to work together, is so dumb.

S8R8M -2/18/2024,8:36 AM

Well there is probably a reason why the MCU deleted him from history. Just to keep Sony at a arms length.

DocSpock -2/18/2024,9:06 AM

Sony execs: How can we furk this up and kill the golden goose?

Mickey the Rat: Geez, I am so sick of these Sony d!ckheads.

bobevanz -2/18/2024,9:47 AM

STOP RUSHING INTO PRODUCTION! The suits only want money for the shareholders, well guess what you dumb [frick]s.. you need a good movie to make money! Who gives af, cbm's are like 20% of the entire movie ecosystem. Let them fail

Armpitwebs -2/18/2024,10:08 AM

Marv should do the following:
1. Drop Spider-Man for a few years, let Sony implode.
2. Have Disney buy the Sony scraps (or let Spider-Man revert to them when Apple buys Sony.)
3. In 2030, do a new Spidey reboot without Sony buffoonery.

STINGRAY -2/18/2024,11:22 AM

RE: "It's now been more than two years since Spider-Man: No Way Home saved theaters, but there are still no definitive signs of Spider-Man 4 being on the horizon."
-----Well, they may want to hurry--Tom Holland is not getting younger, y`know.

RE: "...Marvel Studios, there have been rumblings lately that they and Sony Pictures are clashing over what direction the wall-crawler should head in. The former is said to want a street-level story which pairs Spidey up with Daredevil for a battle with The Kingpin, while the latter hopes to reunite the three Spider-Men - Tom Holland, Andrew Garfield, and Tobey Maguire - for another reality-hopping adventure."
-----Personally, I would prefer to get back to the 'Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man' concept with a Manhattan-centered story, along the lines of some of the classic Lee/Ditko early Spider-Man stories.

BUT, things being the way they are; I would bet money on another High-Concept, Earth-Shaking Consequences multiple-Spider-MEN get-together.....as it is MONEY that is the goal here, not good story telling.